Wednesday, February 15, 2012
Lakitu Video in a Minute. ... What Just Happened?
Originally I was opposed to making a post about this, buuuut after some thought I've decided that this could use a short one.
Yesterday, IG uploaded a short (1 minute 13 seconds) sketch video. It didn't make sense.
We see IG playing Super Mario Bros. 3 BADLY, rather playing badly on purpose. Don't jump into the spinning platforms you dumbass! Go into your inventory, use a leaf, and fly through the level. It's World 5-4.
He then says he needs lives and a 1-Up Mushroom dangles next to his head. IG refuses it. Um why? Unless he's savvy enough to know that grabbing an item will cause Lakitu to throw Spinies, but I seriously doubt that he does. Plus, Lakitu doesn't do that until Super Mario World, so having him do it in a video about SMB3 doesn't make sense.
After a little bit, IG yells at the Super Mario World Lakitu (see, wrong game!) and then Lakitu hits him with the mushroom and fills his room with Spines up to his chest. He let's out a horribly hammy "ow", the credits title card shows up, then a Spiny gets on his head as he tries to blow it off.
... I DON'T GET IT!
The title doesn't make sense. "Lakitu's Revenge". Revenge for what? All IG did was call him an asshole. Is that really something to get worked up over? I call IG an asshole all the time, why hasn't he taken revenge on me?
I guess the title would make sense if in the game he kills a Lakitu, but he doesn't. He's just purposely failing on a level he can just fly over.
Where was the joke? He yells at a video game character and they hurt him? I don't get it! It's like Bores needed to get something out to tell people that "yes, I still talk about video games". Or he needed money.
I wonder why he didn't just do another contest, he never even announced the winners of that one from two months ago. Hmmm.
It's funny how Bores planned the next History of Video Games for 2011 but a couple weeks ago said he didn't have the consoles needed. Nice planning asshole!
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Nice to see you posting again. 2 things:
ReplyDelete1). When is the redux recap of the ET reviews coming out? I've been waiting for you to bust that review wide open.
2). Have you ever heard of Revengeissweet30? He recently made this...charming artwork of you:
http://revengeissweet30.deviantart.com/art/IG-and-friends-beat-up-Daniel-Hirsch-284031567?q=gallery%3Arevengeissweet30&qo=1
Seriously, that guy needs to be put in a mental hospital.
I don't mind if you don't answer, I'm just wondering.
Redux Recaps are "when I feel like it" posts now.
DeleteYes, I have heard of that dA user. That's all I'll say about him.
Yikes that's a.. "photo-manip" (yeah i'm using that in the loosest sense possible)? I'm gonna go ahead and report it so it can be moved to scraps.
DeleteHe's attacking people like us, and yet he's disabled comments for his stupid pic so nobody can say anything about him. Miserable coward.
DeleteAnd he apparently wants us (or at least BatDan) do make shit up about him. Maybe because nobody here could make shit up that's more batshit insane than his actual drawings Oo ?
DeleteHe's both a wimp and an idiot. He can insult us and yet he can't take one himself.
DeleteI've reported him. He's going to be banned. :D
DeleteHis stuff is just the Reservoir Dogs Torture Scene repeated constantly. If he wanted to copy the film, he should have copied it completely, with BatDan as the Cop, Ronnie as Mr. White, Wise Sage as Mr. Orange, Irate Gamer as Joe Cabot, Cousin Joey as Eddie Cabot, Tony as Mr. Blonde ,Wilson as Mr. Pink, Stan as Mr. Blue and Himself as Mr. Brown.
DeleteHave you seen the new Archfiend video, talking about AVGN and his fans AGAIN? I mean, it's kind of pathetic at this point. He can have his own opinion, but come on. Oh, and he has ad revenue up on it. Of course. It pisses me off that people don't seem to understand that making a movie costs a LOT of money. Archfiend's whole argument is, "He shouldn't have asked for money. He should have paid out of pocket." It's not as if he demanded for money, threatening to cancel AVGN. He just said, "This is getting expensive. We're talking to investors, but if you want to make a contribution, here's a link." What's wrong with that?
ReplyDeleteAre you really surprised to see Archfail bitching once again about a not-so-random YT partner ? That guy just picks whatever trendy shit is happening and makes money out of it, just like those Youtube whores he keeps complaining about.
DeleteCody S.: Wouldn't explain why he wants to make ad money, but I'm guessing that Archfiend and others with his opinion have a black and white view on money.
DeleteLooking to make money is evil. Artistic types should be happy to starve while churning out their work rather than cashing in on their talent.
At least that's what I'm guessing, but again the only time wanting to make money is a problem is when someone cuts corners and puts little effort into making money.
Archfiend thinks that soccer fans are instinctively violent. Which is why soccer should never be allowed to become popular in the USA.
Delete@ Charles
DeleteWOW. That is really stupid. *Facepalm*
Meh, I never liked Youtube ranters anyway.
Deleteyou know what? i see the archfiend as a sonic fanboy, he likes the older stuff but hates the new.
DeleteArchfiend. Oh boy oh boy. Belive me or not but he's a fucking disaster. I remeber when some haters called him "a poser", guess what he did, he posted pictures of his steroid-pumped muscles to show how "real" and "tough" he is. For a person that pretends not to care about the interent he sure does some weird stuff. He has a daughter (i mean that's what he claims) and plugs her in his vids, the same thing he hated Shaycarl for. He stands against the "YT system" but that, ironically, makes him a part of it.
Delete@Charles yes because there are never any riots due to sports in the US.
DeleteI think it would be prudent to say that I don't even like soccer (In fact I take no real interest in most sports). However to condemn a sport because it has unruly fans is downright retarded. By his logic, Cricket is a dangerous sport because it's fans have been induced to violence.
Deletehttp://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sydney_Riot_of_1879
You know what? Humanity is responsible for thousands of dictators and murderers. Therefore, we should get rid of those pesky humans!
DeleteWell Archfiend does make montly donations to PETA...
DeleteArchfiend don´t have a brain!
DeleteThat is my short opinion about this guy!
i think the reason bores is a slacker when it comes to putting out new content is probably because of all the time he spends in therapy. or hanging out with his pals from the local autistic social club. or cow tipping. he sucks.
ReplyDeleteWhat's wrong with autistic people? =C
DeletePsycho, I've been diagnosed with autism and i'm nothing like that jackass.
DeleteThe only club Bores would be allowed to go would be his own Brotherhood of Bores, or however he called it.
Delete2012, not 2011. Also, I wonder, what's the point?
ReplyDeleteNo he did plan for the next History of Video Games in 2011. He even said so.
DeleteReally? In that case that's poor planning and that series is never going to end. I can do the history of video games as a speech or paper in less time than him; and I have for school.
DeleteHe's doing it like for job security.
DeleteBores promised to release next HOVG in December 2011. Now it's February 2012 and he started looking for consoles/vid material. His planning sure is "unique" and his promises sure are empty.
ReplyDeleteWhat a Lazy Fuck he is...
DeleteHe wants to work on the next HOVG episode but he doesn't have the consoles needed?! WTF?! What's the point of continuing the series then?! I strongly believe if he haven't waste his time and money buying 80s stuff for those retarded I Rate the 80s episodes, he would have gotten HOVG episode 5 up months ago!
ReplyDeleteIG deleted a comment from me saying "The title is SMB3 Lakitu's Revenge, but you use a SMW sprite."
ReplyDeleteI think he deleted a comment I made on his recent Kinnikuman review where I ask "Why do you pronounce it Kenny Kooman?"
DeleteI've just realized, wasn't Bores supposed to be making a HOVG DVD?
ReplyDeleteI guess we can add that to the long list of lies from the Bores.
Then again, he could have just realized that he has barely made enough content to justify a DVD.
But it would be pretty funny of him selling a DVD with such a short runtime.
DeletePoor planning yeah, just like a certain other nerd.
ReplyDeleteBut I digress.
He probably released that pointlessness just to remind his fans he still gives a fuck. You know how short the attention spans of little kids are.
James doesn't constantly fail to meet promised deadlines, dumbass.
DeleteWe get it! You don't like James!
DeleteIt's like every time you leave a comment you feel the need to remind us of it.
Well, some of his mature fans are complaining. About the rest, pretty much like you said.
Delete@Ozzyman
DeleteI think you are defending Bores just because he´s now one of Asa´s "close Friends" guess what? I don´t give a Jackshit about Asa and Bores! you can be a fan of two Brainless idiots which just wants fame so badly and suck their cocks!
In other words: FUCK YOU!
Seriously, what the fuck is a muscle.
ReplyDeleteIt's kinda like a tetris.
Delete...and it's braver than brand.
DeleteYou better pay attention though, it may get confusing.
DeleteUh, uh... get the f*** off my property!
DeleteIs it possible for Mission Impossible to possibly be a good game? Possibly.
DeleteThis makes this unique brawler very unique!
DeleteIt's Jawls.
DeleteIt'll make you want to throw it across the fucking screen.
Deletenow that´s a tough question...
DeleteOH! i get it! i will check about this in Wikipedia! Oh! the Internetz! =)
NC's Patch Adams video was actually pretty good. It was the first one that legitimately made me laugh at his review in a while.
ReplyDeleteAnd to everyone bitching about me bitching about James, you sure don't have a problem constantly bitching about Bores. I'm sharing the blame. Which your biased eyes and ears constantly overlook.
That's different. Your constant slams against James are totally wrong, since you base your criticisms on falsehoods, while in Chris Bores' case, it's mostly just for entertainment.
DeleteI thought the Patch Adams video was ok, but I have to admit I'm getting a bit tired of his act...in some ways. Overall I still like the show but I can see why some would hate it.
DeleteAnd for crying out loud Phelous enough of the crossovers with Lupa. We get it, you two are dating.
@ ResidentialEvil
DeleteA while back my girl and I were going to start doing a review show as a couple. You probably would have hated it.
Not necessarily, I have no problems with couples doing show together, but both of them had established shows before they started dating, or at the least they kept the show seperate. My problem is almost every video Phelous has done the past month or so has had her in it, and basically the joke has gotten old. Phelous' show is maybe my favorite on TGWTG and it just feels like the him and Lupa thing is being beaten into the ground.
DeleteIt looks cute when they're together. Besides its febuary, maybe he's waiting for Birdemic 2 before making it an all out review
DeleteOzzyman: You seem to bash James for no other reason than to stick it to this blog, whereas the criticism against Bores are full of legit gripes. We're not doing it to spite his fanbase.
ReplyDeleteYou make claims of hypocrisy, even those there are differences which negate your argument. In fact here are some which you and others have given:
1. Accusation: James has taken long to release AVGN episodes too, yet no one gets on his case for it.
Rebuttal: James will be upfront when there's a lag in new episodes. For March of 2010, he admits to wanting to take a break before doing more episodes. And as for right now, he stated that the movie would put a delay in the episodes.
Chris on the other hand isn't and sometimes claims an episode will be out, only to fail on delivering.
2. Accusation: James makes money on his character and no one calls him greedy.
Rebuttal: No one is begrudging Chris the right to make money off his characters and videos. Our problem with him is that his products contain little effort.
And even if James is selling products, to make the kind he does with the effort he puts into it, he obviously spent money to make sure the products are worth our money.
In short, money is good. Cutting corners is bad.
3. Accusation: James makes mistakes in his videos, but no one bashes him for it.
Rebuttal: James makes the effort to improve, Chris doesn't. Like with the merchandise, the difference between one and the other is effort. Keyword, effort
Furthermore, Chris stated in a non joking manner that he knows all the ins and outs of video games, yet is proven wrong in his videos.
James made no such claim. In short, a humble person who makes an error can do so without tarnishing credibility, but if you profess yourself to be a know it all, then you best be able to back it up.
If you don't mind the suggestion Batdan, maybe for a future blog you could go in more detail on why the criticism for Chris isn't heavily applied to James.
@ Antiyonder
DeleteHe's a troll. Trolls don't care for legit arguments, they just love to argue. Chances are he knows the differences between James and Bores, but publicly acknowledging it isn't as fun as pretending to be too stupid to notice and pissing people off. You're wasting your time by even trying.
Hell, even his profile picture shows that he's a troll. "Arrive. Raise Hell. Leave." If that isn't a troll, I don't know what is.
DeleteFinally. Thank you very much. We finally have someone who points out Ozzy's hatred towards James and his contradictions.
DeleteOzzyman is obviously a troll. He still praises Bores despite all the flaws and idiotic things Batdan points out and continously says that James is slow in making videos which is not true. He post new videos every week on Cinemassacre.
Yep, not much to say about this video, other then it was fucking pointless!
ReplyDeleteAlso, not that its really important, but isn't Bores suppose to make a video about that Johonny Awesome kid's contest thing? I'm thinking that's not going to happen.
Everyone knows Mario. Everyone knows the 1-up mushroom. Everyone knows Lakitu. This goes for gamers and non-gamers.
ReplyDeleteHowever, most non-gamers have never encountered a Lakitu "fishing" for Mario with a 1-up, and even some gamers don't remember it. I once had that image as a spray on Counter-Strike:Source, and almost everyone I played with though I'd photoshopped Lakitu from Super Mario Kart and put the mushroom in place of the starting light.
I always grabbed the 1-up on purpose then dodged the spinies afterwards. Many of my less-skilled friends didn't understand why I did this. They'd try to dodge the 1-up so the spinies would never show up. I remember many times when Lakitu would force the 1-up on them, and they'd scream "No!" as he did.
When I see Bores denying the 1-up to avoid the spinies, despite him desperately needing it, he actually reminds me of people who I consider legitimate gamers.
Also, unlike shooting the Duck Hunt dog, this is a reference that few non-gamers would actually understand. Everyone knows and hates the Duck Hunt dog, not everyone has encountered a fishing Lakitu.
So, giving credit where credit is due, I'd say this is Bore's best joke so far. The fact that a very short video was dedicated to this one joke isn't so bad either. At least he didn't shoehorn it into an unrelated review (Duck Hunt dog, anyone? "I just got R.O.B.'ed"?)
I guess you have a point. Really, if he could work out a few of his worse "isms" (Winter Gaming, Overdone mugshots) and produce smaller vids like these with some regularity, it'd at least be a step in the right direction. I'm not holding my breath, though.
DeleteWhen the heck was the last "History Of Video Games" released? Was it really in 2010?
ReplyDeleteJanuary 2011. Over a year.
DeleteLazyness is the name of the Game!
DeleteHey, remember that troll who would replace "fuck" with "fcl"?
ReplyDelete*sigh* He's back, and he's now trolling my videos. He goes by username MarinPicks.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1_hKLfTKU5Y&feature=digest_fri
ReplyDeleteI saw that last night. The whole series is pretty awesome.
DeleteForgive my response being placed here, but I can't make use of the reply button. That said:
ReplyDelete1. Maybe Ozzyman is a troll, but just the same, I think an entry would be handy as our defense towards James for seemingly being guilty of the same things we critique Chris for could legitamitely be seen as hypocrisy without context.
2. As for the earlier comment about why Chris slacks off, I'm still in the camp that thinks he views the job as nothing more than a source of money and has little to no enjoyment of it.
Have Doug and James lowered in quality throughout their shows? Maybe, and maybe not. But they enjoy their work, and even if their current episodes aren't their best, they can still leave a good feeling in you.
Heck, there've been several videos from Chris last year that got some degree of praise on here, indicating that his videos could improve slightly if he were doing reviews on what he enjoyed, rather than convincing us that he's a big video game fan.
I may be in the minority here, but I haven't really seen a decline in James' work. I mean, he has some dumb jokes here and there, but overall, they're still great, entertaining reviews IMO.
DeleteI second that. It's not like the earlier episodes didn't vary in quality as well, and episodes 99-101 are probably some of my favorites (Yeah, I liked the ROB episode, so sue me). When I see all the idiots out there who are like "Man, the series started sucking after the Sega CD episode", I'm just baffled. Really, it wasn't until shortly after that when the series really hit its stride.
DeleteI'm not insisting that James jumped the shark, I'm just stating that even if some episodes aren't well done, his interest in his job makes up for that.
ReplyDeleteIf I have to critique a particular portion, I'd say that some of the episodes that were made after he began working on the movie didn't do it for me (entertaining, just not as memorable). But even then I do enjoy his crossover with Pat (which got me into checking out Pat The Nes Punk episodes) and despite some not caring for it, his final Bible Games review.
If I have to say so myself, I think that most of 2010 was where I found the nerd in his weakest.
DeleteFor example, I found his Metal Gear review so-so. Sure there is things I agree with (like the respawning enemies just for going in the item menu) but he really should have done more research. He seems to praise the MSX game even if it has all the flaws he talks about on the NES version and that respawning on the world map after a death depends on the rank you have. (one star put you at the begining, two stars near the first building, etc)
Heck, I like the nerd yet he dropped the ball on that one (and he didn't correct them on youtube like with the Dick Tracy review) I just felt like he trashed a decent flawed game just for laugh. I know, I know, it's like Simon's quest yet he justifies it as a joke. It seems like he should explain it better why he thinks it sucks.
Hmm, apparently James is "too busy" with his movie to put together an AVGN episode for all his fans, But not too busy to go to some video game competition with Screwattack.
ReplyDeleteAs Batdannight so riotously put it with IG, "Nice Planning Asshole".
*sigh* Dude...just the hell up shut up. You're constant bashing of James is getting old. Go whine about him somewhere else.
Deleteor masturbate yourself thinking about Asa!
Delete@EricKirby Oh but this site's constant bashing Bores doesn't get old?
ReplyDeleteSee how hypocritical all you people are? year in and year out you all whine about what a crackhead bores is (which 99% of the reviewing community already knows) There's hundreds of other people you can call on the same shit as Bores(Not just James) Atleast be honest and unbiased. is that too much to ask?
Apparently it is. To be honest, I'm more fascinated by Bores. The fact that he has gone this long doing what he does is just amazing. I don't bash Bores, I see him more as a "So bad its good" sort of thing. He's hilariously bad. To me at least.
Delete@EricKirby That's actually a bit of how I feel about James.
ReplyDeleteOh, and the reply button isn't working for me for whatever reason.
The difference here is that this blog's ENTIRE PURPOSE is to point out IG's flaws. If you want to express your opinion of the AVGN, go ahead, but do so on a site where people share your opinions. No amount of commenting here is going to change how anyone feels about James. This blog is about IG, not AVGN.
DeleteEven so, I have to disagree with your opinions on James. I completely respect him and still very much enjoy his work. If I was able to I would of willingly donated to the AVGN movie. Movies cost a lot of money to make, he's not trying to make it in a week or less like the people at TGWTG. He's making a real feature length film. And unlike Bores, I can actually TRUST James to do something.
DeleteTGWTG's movies are good, but only when you consider the rushed and cheap nature of them.
DeleteIf the AVGN movie comes out looking something like "Suburban Knights", I will be disappointed.
@Ozzyman
DeleteIf Ignorance was bliss...
Ozzyman: And furthermore, James is at least telling us that the episodes will be on hold, Chris not only claims he's at work, but offers no explanations for the delay.
ReplyDeleteBut I'm definitely on agreement with the blog approach. It would help us to understand your criticism with James if you gave additional detail.
Just give up trying to debunk Ozzyman. Even if he isn't a troll, he's never going to shut up about or respect our opinions on James. That much is obvious from how many comments of his have to do with how James is apparently a greedy hack and how we're hypocrites for hating Bores but liking James.
DeleteFollowers of this blog criticize Bores for using disreputable tactics to promote his show. One of these tactics was using dealdash.com, misleading his viewers on the nature of dealdash.com's business practices and the nature of the partnership.
DeletePeople call followers of this blog hypocrites because we don't bash James for the same thing.
JAMES NEVER DID THAT. A quick Google search of "James Rolfe dealdash" will find no affiliation between dealdash.com and James Rolfe. The same could be said about any scam "penny auction" sites.
IF James Role ever does something like that, you can call us hypocrites, but ONLY if we don't criticize him for it equally.
Another disreputable thing that Bores has done to promote his show is his rigged contest. The contest serve only to artificially intensify his YouTube views and comment stats so he gets more partnership money. In this contest, he breaks his own rules by ignoring all the comments fueling his income and instead have his mother pick winners based on personal favoritism.
People call followers of this blog hypocrites because we don't bash James for the same thing. JAMES NEVER DID THAT.
IF James ever holds a contest for the sole purpose of increasing partnership revenue, AND he isn't equally criticized by members of this blog, THEN you can call us hypocrites.
IF James holds a contest but disregards the rules and has his mother pick winners based on personal preference, AND no one criticizes him for it, THEN you can call them hypocrites.
James is accepting donations to fund a film project based off an original idea. People call us hypocrites because we don't offer Bores a pass for doing the same thing.
BORES HAS NEVER DONE THE SAME THING He's never taken PayPal donations, he's never worked on a film, and he's never had an original idea.
IF Bores were to hold PayPal donations to fund an original film, NO ONE here would criticize him for it. IF that ever happens AND we criticize Bores for his funding methods instead of the film itself, THEN we'd be hypocrites.
FYI if Bores held PayPal donations for an "Irate Gamer" movie, we would criticize him. We'd criticize him for cashing in on someone else's idea, no for cashing in. If James were to be funding an unoriginal movie, he'd be held to the same standard and criticized just as much.
... For those who accuse us of glorifying everything James does as well, that's a lie.
DeletePeople on this blog have criticized Bores for focusing too much on skits and not enough on informative reviews. Most people on this blog, including myself, have criticized James for doing the same thing. Many of us have expressed concerns that the AVGN movie might be just be one long skit.
People criticize Bores for not doing the proper research on games. James has also been criticized for not knowing enough about the game mechanics of Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde to get past the first screen of the game.
Yeah, Bores gets a lot more negative talk than James, but there's good reason for that...
1) This is the "Irate Gamer Sucks" blog. AVGN isn't even in the title of this blog. If the blog were called something like "AVGN vs Irate Gamer" then we'd likely list ALL the flaws of BOTH reviewers. If this blog were called "AVGN Sucks", then there'd be a lot more negative comments about AVGN than IG, if there were negative comments about IG at all.
2) Bores deserves the negative criticism that he gets. Yeah, I have more bad things to say about Bores than I do James. That doesn't mean I'm a fanboy or I'm bias, because I have more bad things to say about Bores based on 100% even expectations from the two of them.
I also have more bad things to say about "Cabin Fever" than I do "Shindler's List", and that's because "Cabin Fever" was a completely shitfest of a movie. Just because I can find a hundred bad things to say about "Cabin Fever" doesn't mean I have to find exactly a hundred bad things to say about every other movie I watch, because "Cabin Fever" is a worse movie than most. Just because I can find a hundred things I like about "Shilder's List" doesn't mean I have to find exactly a hundred nice things to say about every other movie, because it's a better movie than most.
Likewise, just because I can find a hundred things I hate about Bores doesn't mean I have to find a hundred things I hate about James as well. I hate Bore's skits, I hate James's skits too. That's fair. I don't like Bores shoehorning "Star Wars" references into unrelated reviews. Likewise I don't like James shoehorning "American Movie" references into unrelated reviews. That's fair. I don't like Bores "Winter Gaming" with a whenever he's pretending to play the games. I'm not going to pretend James does the same thing just to appease people who'll call me a hypocrite if I don't.
If you think that makes me bias or a hypocrite, you need a goddamn dictionary.
@Shaolin Dave
ReplyDelete"FYI if Bores held PayPal donations for an "Irate Gamer" movie, we would criticize him. We'd criticize him for cashing in on someone else's idea, no for cashing in. If James were to be funding an unoriginal movie, he'd be held to the same standard and criticized just as much."
Perfect example of your hypocrisy. Who else came out with a movie just before James? Oh yeah, the whiny bitch Fred. So James IS cashing in on somone else's idea.
and again, The legitimacy of James' contests are just as in question as Bores'. You all go by what 1 obsessive stalker said and that's automatically fact. It goes to show you'll take anything any of bores' fanboys say, no matter how ridiculous, and pass it off as fact.
Sure this blog is dedicated to hating 1 insignificant reviewer(Which in itself is just sad) But you guys also criticize other people like Asa & Archfaggot.
Is Fred an angry video game reviewer? Did Fred fund his own movie? Is no other internet reviewer in the whole wide internet allowed to make his own movie because Fred did it first?
DeleteUh, what entries in this blog (NOT comments) criticize Asalieri or the Archfiend?
Delete@Ozzy
ReplyDeleteYou must be really desperate to find something wrong with our arguments if you want to bring up Fred. Your point basically sums up like this: James can't make a movie about the AVGN because Fred made his movie first
Nice job ignoring that the Fred movie was funded by Nickolodeon, James was doing his stuff long before Fred came along, both work on entirely different things, and James had already the idea for the movie, with the script done since 2008 while Fred the Movie came out in 2010
Also: Pee-wee's Big Adventure, Wayne's World, The Blues Brothers
Keep flip-flopping dude. You are REALLY helping your case
Honestly, when someone accuses James of ripping off Fred just because James wants to make a movie then that person is clearly a troll(If that wasn't obvious before).
DeleteYeah, I didn't realize that Fred was the first person to ever make a movie, and that everyone in the world who's ever made a movie was ripping off Fred. I've never even see Fred, or heard of him outside this blog, and I never realized that I have him to thank for the invention of cinema.
DeleteAVGN Movie? Ripping off Fred.
Jurassic ParK? Ripping off Fred.
King Kong? Ripping off Fred.
Passion of the Christ? Ripping off Fred.
Wow way to completely ignore my point people. I was responding to what Shaolin Dave said. Which was basically, if IG decided to make a movie he'd be "cashing in on somone else's idea".
ReplyDeleteSo hypothetically speaking, if Bores for whatever reason decided to make an IG movie, he'd be ripping off James, just because he decided to make a movie out of his internet show? If that's really what you all think, you need to have your heads examined.
I wouldn't criticizing him. I would be laughing at how pathetic it would be. If it takes MONTHS for him to release a YouTube video, I imagine we'd be seeing the movie when we're all in our death beds. Besides, who'd fund an IG movie?
DeleteMost people would go saying "meh" at the whole thing. He'd either delay it indefinitely or half-ass the whole way, pissing off a lot of people along the way because of ass pulls and rip-offs
Delete@ Ozzyman
DeleteHypothetically speaking, if Bores were to come up with an original idea and use PayPal donations to fund it, then none of the regular follows of this blog who you accuse of being hypocrites would criticize him for it any more or less than they criticize James. That's because we're not hypocrites.
We'll continue to "ignore your point" for as long as you don't have a point.
Wait, wait, wait...before, you said that AVGN ripped off Fred for making a movie based on his web series. Now, you say that if IG made a movie, it wouldn't be ripping him off. Who's the hypocrite here, again?
Delete@Shaolin Dave: Define "Original Idea" because appearently everything Bores does is a ripoff in some way shape or form.
ReplyDeleteYou want the dentition? Go get it from dictionary.com, and don't come back.
Delete@Ozzyman
DeleteOr go to school for a change!
I think you are using the Internet for Stupid things a lot! and GET A LIFE pal! =)
Lol.
ReplyDeleteLmao these comments are pure gold.
ReplyDelete@Shaolin Dave; Yup, just as I thought. You previous point is null and void. Because in your(and other peopl's twisted views) IG will never have an original idea.
ReplyDeleteGhost Hunting show = Ripoff of Ghost Hunters
Irate 80's = Ripoff of another TV show from 10 years ago.
I guess 1 point I'm trying to make is, why have blogs like this that give Bores so much attention when that hack clearly doesn't deserve it.
What part of this point your trying to make requires bashing AVGN? Why spend so much time trying to criticize him if you're arguments are clearly not working?
DeleteYou know whose point is null and void? Yours.
DeleteI don't remember seeing a post or a comment that says Irate the 80s ripped off something. Quite the contrary, actually. People here were constantly talking about how it was his best and most original series so far.
PS: You said we here all have twisted minds. Have you ever stopped to realise that you're the craziest person in here?
@Ozzyman: This is more like negative attention and I guarantee that he probably clearly might deserve it.
ReplyDeleteWow this argument is pretty long, hey batdan how long until you shut down the comments due to the length if the fights
ReplyDeleteIf batdan shuts down the comments he will be just like Bores.
ReplyDeleteI can remember a time that people here actually liked Asa & Archfag, But ever since they started calling out people like James on their greedy ass BS(Much as they did with Bores, which they were actually praised for) yeah, you people are lying out your ass if you say you're not hypocrites
Hell I give Asa credit for be a man and admitting that Bores' R.O.B review was better than James'.
If James actually came out with his R.O.B review first, than you guys would say Bores ripped off James' by having R.O.B attack him.
But I hear no one crying foul since James did it.
Hypocritical Point #2
I think quite a number of people accused James on the fight scene.
DeleteAlso, I don't remember people ever liking The Archfiend on this blog.
As for Asalieri, most people here dislike the fact that he can turn a bar fight into a nuclear war.
Accuse him of death threats, even though it may have been a misunderstanding? Start a war on the blog, Anon4488 (totally not a BusyStreeter, by the way) included.
Jfreedan called ClanOfTheGreyWolf racist because of J's loose grasp on the term JRPG? Take it so personally as to start a month long war, instead of saying he was wrong and that JRPG is not a racist term, because the former seemed like the more fun option.
We express our opinions about him [(He totally doesn't do that) And *gasp* in a less agressive manner!]? Make tons of videos about it.
You see, with Archfiend, we've hated him from the start. With Asalieri, it's not about his opinions, it's how he expresses them.
@Arthur Arneiro
ReplyDeletewell I can say the same or this blog
"it's not about your opinions, it's how you express them."
Which means we shouldn't use constructed critcism? Because that's what I'm seeing here. All this "bias" you're seeing is just you trying to reach for arguments.
DeleteAlso, remember when you said Shaolin Dave's point was null and void? My guess is you've ignored his screen-long reply to one of your comments. Congratulations you've mastered the Super Tunnel Vision Argument Technique.
@Arthur Arneiro
ReplyDeleteI don't see how bashing someone's accent is "Constructive criticism".
Oh and least I forget, Criticizing Bores for "stealing clips" but when somone makes a video using Bores' clips without permission it's ok because it's under "fair Use"
Hypocritical Point #3.
And I'm guessing your tiny lizard brain could not grasp my reasoning as to why his point is null.
Allow me to repeat myself than. It's because Bores will never have an original Idea. In this blogs view, No matter what IG does, he will never be original.
Yeah even his 80's rant was deemed a ripoff of Board James, Aswell as NC(when Bores did his Garbage Pail kids review)
We only complain about Chris stealing clips is because either A) He sells DVDs with said clips included, which are not his intellectual property. B) He doesn't acknowledge the original owner of the clip in credits.
DeleteSo you're talking about the people who make videos now? Last time I checked, there weren't any videos containing Bores' clips in here.
DeleteWhen did this blog ever say he won't be original? Again, Irate the 80's.
So, these "ripoff claims" are just what a handful of people said. It's not what we all think.
Also, saying I have a tiny lizard brain? How mature. Because hurling insults works so well when you want to be taken seriously.
@Ozzyman
DeleteFor God´s sake man! Shut up!
I see someone needs to work on theyr grades in Grade school, since last time I checked, a lizard brain (although Amygdala is the proper scientific term for it) is a part of the brain responsible for fear, anger and negativity, not for comprehencing of madmans random ramblings. Unless it was just a half-assed attempt at an insult, eather way it was a very umprofessionall statement clearly leading towards your mediocre education. You should spend less time on the internet and more doing your homework and playing hide-and-seek with other kids, it will turn out good for you once you hit 18.
DeleteI realize I'm kind of late to the party here, but what bugs me about Bores isn't that he's yet another angry reviewer. It's that he's somebody who sees something popular, and says to himself "that could be me."
DeleteNot that he's criticizing games, but because he claims to be a gamer when his criticisms identify him as someone who never cared about videogames until angry game reviewers became popular. It's not so much about unoriginality, it's about throwing his hat into the ring when all he wants is money and recognition by pretending to know about something he obviously doesn't. Being a huge asshole to anybody who confronts him with a legitimate complaint doesn't help.
Then again I'm the kind of guy who hates Twilight not because vampires don't sparkle, but because vampires don't sparkle because it's stupid if they do.
Was just on Facebook. Bores claims that he wanted to review Skylanders, but it was sold out. Also, he thought that the game would be a big hit when he saw it at E3.
ReplyDeleteI can only imagine how he'd fuck that up.
DeleteI've tend to refrain from the accusations of a ripoff if only because I don't think I can completely prove my case.
ReplyDeleteThat said, I always thought "I Rate The 80s" was likened more to "You Know What's Bullshit?"
Board James not only came after both, but it's not rant based like the other two videos.
The "Breakfast Rants" were obviously ripped off from "You Know What's Bullshit?". Beyond that I really don't see the connection.
DeleteAfter it became "I Rate the 80s", it was pretty much its own thing. Mostly the problem with it now is that Bores seems to alternate far too much between things he actually seems to care about (Micro Machines, The Bud Bowl) and stuff he just doesn't seem invested in (He-Man, Madballs). If he could either stick to what he knows or at least try to come up with something more informative than skimming a Wikipedia article on the things he doesn't, he'd at least be going in the right direction with that show.
Delete@ Ozzyman
ReplyDeleteYou could argue that, at least to a certain extent, hypocrisies and double standards are a virtually-inescapable of human nature, and aren't necessarily bad things. And we're just trying to have some fun at Chris Bores's expense, with no intention of genuinely hurting or judging people. I for one would like to own my hypocrisies and double standards, and not take my feelings and opinions on such trivial matters as online personalties so seriously. Can't we all just get along?
@Ozzyman
ReplyDelete:sigh:
get out, just, get out.
I read on IG's Facebook saying that he wants to review Skylanders, but all of the stores are sold out. Um... really? I still see tons of unsold copies everytime I go to Gamestop (or any other place that sells video games for that matter).
ReplyDeleteI don't know how I'd feel if Bores reviews Skylanders. I get the feeling it would be an idiotic video where he praises the game that most people wouldn't want to get their hands on. Plus, you know this is another cash grab from Activision when they slap Spyro the Dragon onto the game.
Or order online. Just about every online store has it. Why buy it though, doesn't GotGame send him free games?
DeleteSeems like a pointless title to review as NONE of his fans want that. They want Skyrim, or Minecraft, or Call of Duty.
I have to say, the more I see of people bashing internet celebrities/companies/whatever on the internet over the stupidest things, the more depressed I get. People treating James Rolfe's accepting donations as being completely reprehensible, still hating on Nintendo even after they confirm the localization of the game you ask for, bitching at Doug Walker for pretty much everything he does...
ReplyDeleteImagine how awful the world would be if people in real life just turned off their bitch-filter like they did on the internet.
Some people do live their life like that. I use to work at a check printing company. One day I got a call from a customer who'd forgotten to pay for her order so she got a bill in the mail. It wasn't like she didn't owe the money, she wasn't being overcharged, no one was being rude to her. Still, she called me up and said some of the most vile things one human being has ever said to another.
DeleteSomeone else (a telemarketer) had to deal with the same woman and he posted the whole conversation on YouTube --> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qkE1Nbk-wuI
I also remember a time several years ago, while I was waiting to leave for basic training I was working as a Pizza delivery guy. I once had a customer who noticed the "tip" section on the credit card receipt and decided to lecture me on all the reasons it was "sinful" and "hateful" for me to expect tips.
Well, Humans are impossible.
Delete@lordlaharl I know how you feel. I also felt bored to see nothing but complains on trivial things.
DeleteIs this how we look at things now? Bitch at how it's not like they want. Or how they sucks because they hate something they like.
There is things I don't agree on with many people, sure but I respect their choices. I don't throw rants at how they are wrong or how they are lying to themselves for liking something I don't. It's called opinions. Everyone has them. Yet there is a huge difference between saying our opinions to someone and bashed them because they don't have the same as you.
@lordlahrl
DeleteI wouldn't let those guys get to you. Some of those guys you described sound like they're dumb as shit, and some of them sound like they're just 3rd rate trolls.
In Unrelated news, Chris Chan turns 30.
ReplyDeletethe 30 year old virgin. BTW, did you see that Sega finally acknowledged his hellspawn of a creation?
DeleteReally? Could you provide a link as I've seen nothing of the sort on the CWCiki.
DeleteI actually wanna see how they address it.
Well if they did I'd like to see it.
Deletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Cnoq4-Mhpgc
DeleteAt 3:53, they briefly mention Sonichu.
I'd love it if SEGA really does have a Sonichu doll tucked away somewhere in their head office for lulz.
Deletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qXLeimSXX7Y
ReplyDeletewell, it looks like y2b2000 has been brainwashed by the archdeucebag.
You know, I didn't mind so much when he made the first AVGN random clips episode. Though I didn't agree with a lot of it, it would be incredibly petty to insist that he can't find fault in James' work. But comparing his business practices to the events of Majora's Mask is really going too far. I mean I know it's a fictional event, but it's a slippery slope y2b's on, and probably only a matter of time before he starts comparing James to Hitler, or saying Doug Walker is in league with Satan or something.
DeleteTo those who grow tired of the consistent nitpicking and the laughable attempts at flame wars, think of this song and I guarantee you'll feel better http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVnWOUR7NQE
ReplyDeleteI like it :)
DeleteNow use it against
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And archdouche blocked me, yay....
DeleteI happened to find that song by complete accident too. I'm truly glad I found it because it describes so many people without giving any names.
DeleteGod dammit. Guys, batdanmn is now using Daniel's potrait, making people think that's how he looks like in real life.
ReplyDeleteAlso, I visit LadyBuggin's profile and the info box says she's divorced. Hmmm....
Yeah, I found that kinda' annoying, but, to be honest, I don't give a shit. Compared to other trolls batdanmn is totally irrelevant, to me at least. All he does is make obviously fake Nostalgia Critic videos.
DeleteAs for LadyBuggin, if that's true I'm really not surprised, considering how immature and idiotic she acts.
Unrelated: I just got back from seeing 'Act of Valor'. It's the best movie I've seen in a long time. I suggest everyone watch it.
ReplyDeleteI heard they used live ammo during shooting (no pun intended). I'll check it out for that reason alone.
DeleteSo, what did you think of the Oscars?
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry, but I'm gonna have to disagree. While the Visuals in DoTM were impressive, they still were disappointing in the sense that very little stood out and everything had a similar hue to it. Granted, I may be bias seeing as I hate ALL of Tranformers movies, but I think Hugo's effect were more effective because everything popped out and it had good atmosphere.
DeleteA bit O/T, and I know he's been mentioned before, but good lord The Blockbuster Buster is quickly joining the IG on the awful scale. I find myself watching him for the same reason I watch IG, because it's a train wreck. He has the same annoying type characters, the same annoying "storyline", and his voice and acting are awful. Geez these two should do a crossover.
ReplyDeleteI have received an update from my Facebook informant.
ReplyDeleteIG is working on History of Video Games, a Neo episode, and a short. He says to "expect it soon". I sense pain.
He also mentioned his storyline. The next "arc" will be called "The Rise of Red" and will finish out his story line in 2-3 episodes. Already? Did you just give up on the story arcs? Given how inconsistent he is, I wouldn't be surprised.
Either way, this is going to suuuuuck.
Is he STILL trying to convince us that the HAL robot is a good villain? Because considering his previous arc ended with an entire army of them being wiped out by a crappy NES peripheral with little to no attempt at retaliation, it's hard to imagine how one could pose a credible threat. I'll give him some benefit of the doubt here, but if this arc is anything like the last, it'll probably just end up being a huge buildup with little to no payout at the end.
DeleteAlso, do you think he'll do anything to convince anyone that this so called "Shadow Lord/Overlord" is anything but the most generic idea for a villain ever?
I can't fathom the idea of Chris making an IG movie. *shudders*
DeleteRise of Red? Didn't his last "arc" centre entirely around a whole army of those things?
DeleteThe IG series doesn't really bother me that much anymore its just something he isn't very good at but the History series still bugs me. @BD has he gone back and corrected any of the mistakes that were pointed out to him by Ralph Baer? I understand that he blocks constructive criticism on YouTube but I cant imagine the ego it would take to ignore somebody who was actually there in the middle of the action during the period you were covering.
@Clark
DeleteNo. He did not. I'm not sure if he will.
Well, this next story arc can't be more disappointing then the last, amirite?
DeleteWell, it's not the first time he stuck to his opinions despite plain FACTS telling otherwise...
And AFAIK, he mentioned the message from Baer on his website, although he said nothing about the actual content...
Maybe Red refers to that ridiculous red shirt thing he did with his last video.
Delete@Keith
DeleteActually "Red" refers to the lead HAL-bot with the red eye. Compared to the others with a purple eye.
I already took that into account but I figured that's what he might go with if he was going to stick with dropping the robot thing.
DeleteAs for the video... meh. Whatever. I really fail to see why he thought this was something his fans wanted to see. I mean granted, his fans have shown that their expectation is low, but I highly don't this could tide them over.
ReplyDelete*Drums fingers on desk*
So, anyone here watch wrestling...? How bout that Bruiser Brody, huh? And Hayabusa, lemme tell you... ah... I'll stop talking now...
Bores just posted a picture of on his Facebook page. It's of two boxes of Capt'n Crunch. Yeah.
ReplyDeleteLet me guess; "No more Soggies? Breakfast is ruined!"
DeleteHe's basically comparing the old box with the new box. Yeah.
DeleteGod damn it Chris, I thought we matured past cosmetic changes in cereal. *sighs* I sense the next I Rate the 80s will be about this.
DeleteI really hope he doesn't say "breakfast is ruined". If he does it because others are saying it, then he didn't get they're saying it ironically.
My Facebook informant told me that the next History of Video Games is soon. I don't get the subject matter. He's covering the period between Pong consoles and the Atari 2600. That's a dead period.
What did we get? Fairchild Channel F, RCA Studio II, really nothing else. Is he cover more Pong consoles? I have a strong feeling most of this video will be padded sketches.
God, I hope he doesn't do a Capt'N' Crunch video. Though, maybe it's because I' am a huge Jay Ward/Bill Scott fan and I can imagine Chris' video on it would suck more then GameDude's Rocky and Bullwinkle video.
DeleteWith that, I'am now imagining him complaining about how Quake(The cereal) sucks because they changed the mascot from a miner to a cowboy.
Hmm... I don't know what that Cap'n Crunch picture is about, but I don't think it's a screenshot of the next I Rate the 80s. It looks more like a bad photo image that someone made of First Mate Crunch. I believe he only posted it just to be funny.
DeleteWell, I suppose it would be hypocritical to fault Bores just for posting something he found online on his Facebook page. That being said, it does remind me of a line from the Third Rate Gamer:
Delete"I loved dnL when I was a kid because the name was a dumb little joke, so it really matches the humor on my show!"
Breakfast is ruined!
ReplyDeletestarofjustice:
ReplyDeleteAgreed. I also have to say in general that another problem, not just with Bores, but some of those trying to following in James' footsteps is that they think a bunch of complaints make for a good angry review.
To start with some relevant examples, some of Chris' reviews tend to center around how "bad" a game is because it has 8 Bit graphics and it's different from the predecessor or other games in general (i.e. Super Mario Bros 2 and Spot The Video Game). In contrast James never dismissed Castlevania 2 for it's graphics or being different from the first game.
Or looking at Gamedude's review on Mickey Mousecapade, he spends a little too much time ranting about the title of the game, and then the name of the first level. Neither of which impact the gameplay.
NC17's review for Mickey's Adventures in Numberland had similar problems.
DeleteI'm Baaaccckkk!
ReplyDelete*Shrugs shoulders*
Deletelol ig banned me form his channel for callign him out on this video this video is stuped lmao. chris bores more like chris BORE rofl
ReplyDeleteI'm sorry but have to say this once more. I seriously think that Chris has a mental disability or some sort of chemical imbalance. I'm not saying that to bash him nor am I saying in an attempt to make fun of him (unlike SOME people who find it humorous to lump him with autism). I just find it impossible to believe that anyone who could actually make it to college and has the capability to handle editing software, or hell, any person in general could be this unreasonably stupid.
ReplyDeleteCOuld you please explain chemical imbalances to me?
DeleteAnyone else think Mike Matei's review of Elmo in Grouchland felt kinda flat?
ReplyDeleteVinceThePhilosopher: Except that disabilities don't equate to stupidity.
ReplyDeleteNo the problem is that he:
A. Wants to make money without effort (Perhaps the best example are the movie trailers he uploaded that were mostly unedited with maybe a couple words or a sentence of comment).
B. He wants to convince everybody that he's a fan of all of these franchises and video games, rather than doing videos on a subject he would enjoy.
Well, Bores posted his first contest video since December. He's giving away 2 Irate Gamer mousepads this time.
ReplyDeleteHe also mentions that he's almost done with History of Video Games part 5 and that it's going to be on "5 weeks end" (IDK what he means by that). He also says that a new Irate Gamer NEO review and IG Short is going to be in the works as well.
Oh, and he still did not announce the winners of his last contest video.
He said "by weeks end". So the end of this week. *preps self for the stupid*
DeleteFive internet dollars says he won't release it "by weeks end."
DeleteOh goody, a new Neo review. I guess GotGame finally realized he hadn't done any content for them since Thanksgiving.
ReplyDeleteOh goody, I can't wait to see another half - Assed post by Batdannight complaining about minute details no one cares about. Like his accent for example "Herp Derp IT'S NOT ME-LAY IT'S MAY-LAY DUMBFUCK!
ReplyDelete"If you don't pronounce words the way I do you dumbass"
Hey look at that I got a line for you to use in you next IG article. You welcome Daniel.
So, I see you still won't quit, eh Ozwald?
DeleteSpeaking of, that does remind me of you post of IG's Brawl review(Which in fact was written worse then IG's review)
ReplyDeleteThe whole time I was reading that it literally got me thinking, What? did you(Batdannight) do a Brawl review that either came out terrible or wasn't as popular as IG's?
I mean really you made the most asinine complaints about the review.
"WTF you didn't mention all the other clone characters from Melee"
"It's Pit, not Kid Icarus Dumbass" - I actually grew up on the Kid Icarus Games(even If Bores didn't) and I still prefer calling by the Games name.
"You obviously only like Mr G&W to sound like a hardcore player" - Because that's the only reason someone could like him, huh?
Here's some "constructive criticism" for you Batdannight. Instead of constantly complaining about what we've all known for What 7 years now?(Bores is a terrible reviewer)Why not critique actually gripes in the review and not the Reviewer!
Hello Ozzy
DeleteI have no interest in protecting Dan or labeling you a 'troll', but reading this post, it strikes me that your biggest gripe is with the way Dan writes up his pieces. So my question is this... Why dont you write your own?
No seriously I am not baiting you I am generaly interested in what you mean. If you think Dan's review of IGs Brawl review was lacking then do your own review, not only would it move away from this 'angry troll tag' but it would be beneficial for us all as we see a diffeent way to critique Bores.
Sincirely intrigued, Relin
Exactly! Show us the right way, Ozzy!
DeletePlus, if he pronounces words differently due to an accent, all he would need to have done early on is mention it rather than having the viewers guess whether it's an accent or incapability to get words right.
DeleteI'm only sincerely intrigued by the fact that he doesn't acknowledge the fact that the chances to make his points heard are now zero.
DeleteNot to be mean, but trying to make a serious argument when you spent the last 3 posts igniting flame wars (with only you on your side, I wonder why...) is a pretty ballsy move.
I'll concede to you that Brawl was one of Dan's weaker posts (Possibly due to his personal biases against the game). That being said, I'm pretty sure Boring Man's mispronunciation of melee, much like his "ay share" and "Kenny Kooman", was less his accent and more his being an illiterate hick.
Delete"I thought I was playing Cool Spot not Super Smash Bros Me......Me......Me.......BRAWL!!!"
DeleteAlso for anyone that thinks his pronunciation of Melee is just an accent, keep in mind this is the same guy who uses terms like "fustrating".
@ Ozzy
DeleteWho the hell would ever called the protagonist Kid Icarus? The manuals always refer the character as Pit. Hell, even The Nostalgia Critic points out in his Captain N review that in the show he's called Kid Icarus when in the GAMING WORLD, he's called Pit
Sovereign64: Maybe so, but if people want to call him Kid Icarus that's their business. Now if Chris had stated a preference for that name, while providing the correct name at any point in the video, again, he'd get less criticism.
Delete@ Sovereign64
ReplyDeletehttp://www.dorkly.com/video/25177/dorkly-bits-mistaken-hero-identities
That's like people calling Captain Marvel "Shazam"... oh wait.
ReplyDeleteUgh, don't remind me of that. The DC Captain Marvel is still the iconic version of CM.
DeleteSorry but I can't see how Marvels b roster (at best) hero is more iconic then a character that has endured since the 1940's? Besides it was his name first.
DeleteWhich Marvel Captain Marvel is the iconic one by the way? Marvell? Monica Rambeau? Noh-Varr? Lets face it Ms Marvel is more iconic then Captain Marvel at this point.